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City of Santee
Measure Q Initiative from the People - Majority Approval Required

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Election Results

Passing

19,269 votes yes (64%)

10,832 votes no (36%)

Shall the measure amending the Santee Municipal Code to require that no person shall serve as an "Elected Official," defined to include the offices of Mayor and Member of the City Council, for more than twelve years, or three terms, whichever is less, with any portion of term, whether by election or appointment, counting as a full term, be adopted?

What is this proposal?

Measure Details — Official information about this measure

Impartial analysis / Proposal

Source: Santee City Attorney's Office / Santee City Clerk's Office

CITY OF SANTEE
CITY ATTORNEY’S IMPARTIAL ANALYSIS OF MEASURE “Q”

The City of Santee currently does not have term limits for its Mayor or City Council.

Measure “Q” would amend the Santee Municipal Code to provide that no person shall serve as an “elected official” for more than twelve years, or three four-year terms, with any portion of a term, whether by election or appointment, counting as a full term. The Measure defines “elected official” to include the offices of the Mayor and Member of the City Council. Therefore, if Measure “Q” is approved, no person could serve as either Mayor or City Council Member, or in any combination of those positions, for more than a total of twelve years, or three four-year terms, with any portion of a term counting as a full term.

Measure “Q” was placed on the ballot by a petition signed by the requisite number of voters.

If Measure “Q” is approved, pursuant to the Elections Code, and notwithstanding any contrary language in the Measure, the term limits would apply only to future terms, elected or appointed, beginning with the terms that commence as a result of the November 3, 2020 election.

A separate term limits measure, Measure “R,” is also on the ballot. Under the Elections Code, if both Measure “Q” and Measure “R” pass with a majority of “yes” votes, the measure receiving the highest number of “yes” votes will become the operative law of the City, and can thereafter be amended or repealed only by a majority of the voters at a subsequent City election.

A copy of the entire text of the proposed ordinance is printed in this voter information pamphlet.

/signed/

SHAWN HAGERTY
City Attorney

 

https://www.cityofsanteeca.gov/home/showdocument?id=20364

Published Arguments — Arguments for and against the ballot measure

Arguments FOR

Arguments in support or opposition of the proposed laws are the opinions of the authors.

 

ARGUMENT IN FAVOR OF MEASURE Q

YES on Q to SaveSantee.com

Vote YES to establish a Limit of 3 Terms on the Santee City Council.

Don't be confused by career politicians' competing measure that would add 2 additional terms for the Mayor, setting up a potential 20-year career on city council.

Our citizens Initiative is a compromise of three 4-year terms from the politicians desire to further water down citizen proposed limits to their power.

In comparison, Term limits in San Diego and at the Board of Supervisors are two 4-year terms. Our Initiative grants a third term to take advantage of experience while limiting the ability to entrench corrosive special interest relationships.

Politicians are likely hoping that confusion about the competing term limits measures allows both term limit measures to fail so their power of incumbency prevails.

The key to a well run city is not an entrenched city council. It is a quality city manager and city staff overseen by competent citizens serving limited terms in the public interest.

Politicians who spend too much time in office stop representing us. Their focus skews toward themselves and their special interest contributors.

Term Limits:

  • Help ensure the voice of the people will be heard over special interests contributions.
  • Allow new faces with fresh ideas and energy to serve our community.
  • Help reduce career politicians overwhelming campaign advantages.

High name recognition - regulatory power - special interest contributions - all tip the scales against start-up candidates.

YES on Q:

- limits the power of incumbent career politicians.

- limits politicians to three terms as either Mayor or City Councilmember (or any combination thereof).

Join thousands of your petitioning neighbors to establish a simple limit of 3 terms on the Santee City Council.

STEPHEN HOULAHAN
Santee City Councilman

VAN COLLINSWORTH
Geographer /Director, PreserveWildSantee.org

 

https://www.cityofsanteeca.gov/home/showdocument?id=20430

— Source: Santee City Clerk's Office

Arguments AGAINST

Arguments in support or opposition of the proposed laws are the opinions of the authors.

 

ARGUMENT AGAINST MEASURE Q

The Santee Term Limits Committee requests you vote NO on measure Q. 

To institute term limits that are legally binding and beneficial to our community we urge you to vote YES on R, and NO on Q! 

Measure R was instituted to propose legal, common sense term limits.

Santee is a small town that shares a boundary with a large metropolis. We need experienced Councilmembers who have the contacts necessary to effectively work within the county in the best interest of our citizens. This initiative will severely cripple the experience of our City government by limiting your choices at the ballot box.

"Q" directs a three-term limit indiscriminate of position or the length of the term. Whether serving as Mayor or Council, just three terms. Any partial term of any length would be counted as a full term. This could result in a member being unqualified to serve in just over 6 years. This is an issue because this limits experience in the Council. An inexperienced Council can and will be taken advantage of by special interest groups and PACs.

Would we ever see a Mayor elected that is not on his "lame duck" last election cycle?

Knowing this, PACs and other special interests become increasingly powerful with prospective candidates. Your future Council will be made up of members who owe PACs favors.

No matter how effective a Councilmember, a termed-out Councilmember can never run for office in Santee again.

The initiative attempts to "pre-date" the legally effective date, which will likely result in court challenges.

This is an attempt by a special interest PAC serving a minority of the people to gain leverage over a well informed and experienced Council.

This poorly written initiative was hastily produced by a Special Interest Group and deceived voters when collecting signatures.

/signed/ 

ROB McNELIS
Councilman

RANDY VOEPEL
Former Santee Mayor

JONATHAN OLSEN

LYNDA MARROKAL
Community Historian

 

https://www.cityofsanteeca.gov/home/showdocument?id=20432

— Source: Santee City Clerk's Office

Replies to Arguments FOR

Arguments in support or opposition of the proposed laws are the opinions of the authors.

 

REBUTTAL TO ARGUMENT IN FAVOR OF MEASURE Q

Measure Q is Questionable.

Petitioned using a Questionable mantra that it will fix traffic; it will not fix traffic; it will do just the opposite.

The special interest authors of Q are looking for an inexperienced council that they can manipulate and take advantage of for their Questionable special interests.

It's Questionable that this special interest would attempt to pre-date the effective start date; which may cost the city thousands in legal fees.

It's Questionable that this special interest would attempt to subvert or minimize a past election.

Measure R corrects the mistakes of Q and makes sure we have the turnover in council for fresh and innovative ideas while also protecting the experience we need to represent our community in the large metropolitan San Diego area.

Vote NO on Questionable Q and YES on the Right choice of Measure "R".

/signed/ 

DAVID LEONHARDI
President, Deputy Sheriff's Association of San Diego

DANIEL BICKFORD
Senior Advocate

JUSTIN SCHLAEFLI
Chair, Santee General Plan Committee

MIKE CLINKENBEARD
Treasurer, Santee Chamber of Commerce

LYNDA MARROKAL
Community Historian

 

https://www.cityofsanteeca.gov/home/showdocument?id=20438

— Source: Santee City Clerk's Office

Replies to Arguments AGAINST

Arguments in support or opposition of the proposed laws are the opinions of the authors

 

REBUTTAL TO ARGUMENT AGAINST MEASURE Q

Join thousands of Santee residents who petitioned for a straightforward limit of three 4-year terms by voting YES on Q.

Our political system has been corrupted by special interest monetary contributions. Term Limits are one way for citizens to begin to restore the checks and balances required for healthy democracy.

The Santee City Attorney acknowledges:

  • Currently terms are unlimited.
  • If Q passes, no person could serve beyond 12 years = three four-year terms on the City Council.
  • Yes on Q limits terms beginning with the election November 3, 2020.
  • A competing measure was placed on the ballot by the City Council.

YES on Q breaks the lifetime incumbent stranglehold on City Hall and return the keys of government to its rightful owners: the ordinary, hard-working, taxpaying citizens of Santee.

Vote Yes on Q to SaveSantee.com

/signed/

VAN COLLINSWORTH
Geographer/Director PreserveWildSantee.org

SAMM HURST
Health Scientist/UCSD
City Council Candidate

STEPHEN HOULAHAN, RN
Santee City Councilman

 

https://www.cityofsanteeca.gov/home/showdocument?id=20440

— Source: Santee City Clerk's Office

More information

News (1)

Santee has competing term limit measures on Nov. 3 ballot — October 20, 2020 San Diego Union Tribune
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Who supports or opposes this measure?

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